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Nightmares with my Glock...

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Re: Nightmares with my Glock...

Postby iridium-192 » Tue Aug 16, 2016 8:51 pm

Thank you comrade! I've ordered couple more mags of .22LR, hoping to get to the shooting range in early September... :D :thumbup:
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Re: Nightmares with my Glock...

Postby bearrowland » Wed Aug 17, 2016 1:01 pm

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Re: Nightmares with my Glock...

Postby iridium-192 » Tue Aug 30, 2016 9:16 pm

Just found that there is actually a slight difference in ejector design for 9mm & .40S&W or .357sig...
I have a trigger kit for .357sig on my G26 installed, which includes .357sig (or .40S&W) ejector, of course...
So far, I think it can affect on angle at which spent case will be ejected from the pistol, that's all it may affect. I don't think it can engage a primer in any way, it is just physically impossible.
Any ways, here is Lenny Magill gives his explanation in the following video...
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Re: Nightmares with my Glock...

Postby iridium-192 » Sun Sep 18, 2016 10:39 pm

Here is an AWESOME video from "FortuneCookie45LC", which explains loud and clear why Glock factory barrels SUCK big time... All that BS about benefits of so called "Polygonal rifling" is no more then marketing gimmick.
Good people, heed to my words, Statistics NEVER LIE!
So, just take your precious time & watch this video, you will not be the same opinion from now on.
Here it is...
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Re: Nightmares with my Glock...

Postby Grindl » Mon Sep 19, 2016 8:17 am

Somewhat informative ; but leaves more questions than answers . He never told us how many rounds have been through the Glock barrel , for a "real" comparison to the Lone Wolf barrel , which is extremely important when doing a comparison of different barrels . The fact that the Glock barrel was shooting a much lower fps avg. tells me it has had a fair number of rounds down the pipe , compared to a brand new Lone Wolf barrel . And the deviation number supports that .

I have the Lone Wolf barrel in 9mm for my drop-in , and I've seen about the same difference in accuracy with either barrel . The major difference is my hand loads are far more accurately loaded than the commercial Federal he was using . I use the same Federal brown box for "plinking" , cause it's cheap , and it gives me good cases to reload . And to "BLAME" the flyer's on the barrel ?..... Seriously ?

Having grown up in the highly competitive Target Pistol shooters world ; with high dollar equipment , I would conclude from watching this video , that the ammo is more of a problem , than either barrel . And I have no ; Zero , qualms about the polygonal barrel in my Glock . Funny thing about pistols ....Highly competent Operator required . Just sayin .

And His conclusion was ; "They are both very good barrels" .
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Re: Nightmares with my Glock...

Postby iridium-192 » Mon Sep 19, 2016 8:41 am

Well, he been very polite, that's why he said what he said at the end. Anybody who would watch this experiment would make a very different conclusion.
Same person, same cartridge, same time & overall all the same, yet quite different results with different barrels... Statistics... Make your conclusion...


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Re: Nightmares with my Glock...

Postby ShootnMathews » Mon Sep 19, 2016 8:48 pm

I have no complaints with any of my glocks. Lord only knows how many rounds fired through them combined and I have yet to have a single failure to feed or a jam of any kind. I've had a few dead primers on cheap ammo but that's no fault of the gun. As far as accuracy goes. I can't complain about that either. I once told my buddy, jokingly, that I was going to drive his thumbtack, that was holding the target paper, through the backer board. Then proceeded to in one shot from about 8 yards, drove his tack through the board. Not claiming I can do that every time. But that is the only time I've tried it. It is more than accurate enough that I would have no worries shooting at a threat at any distance that I would with any other pistol. I have found that my glocks seem to be especially accurate with 165 grain bullets. (40S&W).

Sorry your one glock experience has been a bad one. Any mass produced product is going to have a few lemons.
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Re: Nightmares with my Glock...

Postby iridium-192 » Mon Sep 19, 2016 9:42 pm

My Glock is OK now, after investing $800+ worth of aftermarket parts in it... I guess, if factory would just try to put every effort to make it really perfect,(as they claim they do), it would be really good pistol without any additional inwaistment... ))
As I've learned in university, if you use good material in good design, you'll get good product, as long as an execution of that idea is also good... If Glock has everything "average", there is no way to get "perfect" (As they say) outcome...
Statistics are very stubborn.
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Re: Nightmares with my Glock...

Postby Grindl » Tue Sep 20, 2016 1:49 pm

I ; also , feel bad that you've had a poor experience with your Glock , Iridium . The only changes I've made to my G22-.40 cal are the trigger plate and springs to reduce trigger pull to 2 lbs., after some slight filing on the trigger plate . This was all done by my local Glockmeister Gunsmith , with standard Glock parts . Think it was around $25-26.00 dollars . And mine is a Gen3 , LEO turn-in. Slide was tight , and barrel looked brand new when I got it three and a half years ago . . Did have holster wear on front of slide , but I can live with that .

My remarks toward the very "un-scientific" test were directed toward the methodology the gentleman used in his "test". A good scientific ballistic comparison test would have been to use two brand new barrels of each manufacturer , and ammo that was hand-loaded for accuracy . The reason I say this about the ammo he used , is because I've pulled that ammo in .40cal apart and found as much as a half grain variation in their loads . Not very consistent for "statistics", evaluations .

I have carried many different handguns both as a civilian , and in combat , in many places around the world , and my own personal conclusion is that the Glock-22 .40 is the finest combat handgun ever created . And apparently SOCOM ( Special Operations Command ) is in agreement , because they have adopted the Glock 6" .40cal as the "official" carry weapon for all Spec-Ops troops , and finally dumped that POS 92F . When you pull the trigger , Glocks go BANG .It's not called the AK-47 of handguns without reason .That's all I need to know .

I don't carry a Glock because it's "pretty" , a Range Queen , or is the latest , greatest , flavor of the month in all the gun magazines . I carry it because it works , first time , every time .
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Re: Nightmares with my Glock...

Postby iridium-192 » Tue Sep 20, 2016 5:32 pm

I understand you Grindl, and I appreciate your opinion, that's good that you shoot what you like, just like I do...
Good thing, we all have options so far...
I'm sure, that your G22 works very well, otherwise you would not say so...
Defense ministries make contracts considering many aspects & it is always the matter of balance, if even slightly better designed weapon will be considerably more expensive, I'm sure it will loose to slightly inferior competitor, if it considerably cheaper...
Do you know what Glock is adapted by Cpec-Ops troops? Maybe there are some significant differences from what we know as standard Glock, (Trigger group, Barrel...)?
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