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Izhevsk Arsenal Markings and History

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Izhevsk Arsenal Markings and History

Postby Marauder 1 » Tue Jun 28, 2011 8:36 pm

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Re: Izhevsk Arsenal Markings and History

Postby cavrider » Tue Jan 31, 2012 7:18 pm

ok, i was on another site. and i had a lot of questions about the izhevsk markings on my 1944 m44. does anyone have a list of the markings they used and what they mean? i know the basics, but not alot of the smaller ones. i have 29 markings on my rifle. im sure alot of them are refurb stamps. im just trying to see what i can find. thank you!
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Re: Izhevsk Arsenal Markings and History

Postby DevilDog » Tue Jan 31, 2012 7:30 pm

The 2 best references on barrel marking are going to be 7.62x54r.net:http://7.62x54r.net/MosinID/MosinMarks.htm
and mosinnagant.nethttp://mosinnagant.net/USSR/mosin_nagant_markings.asp

They have dozens of pictures. If there is one you do not find, post it and maybe someone here has seen it. I have 3 Izzy's myself dating back to 1929, including an 1944 M44, and it has many small proof marks. Older ones have Cyrillic markings which are not documented, but many proof marks are.
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Re: Izhevsk Arsenal Markings and History

Postby cavrider » Tue Jan 31, 2012 8:43 pm

Thank you very much! Ill post some pics and I drew all the marks I found. So, I hope you guys can help me find the history of my rifle.
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Re: Izhevsk Arsenal Markings and History

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Re: Izhevsk Arsenal Markings and History

Postby cavrider » Tue Jan 31, 2012 9:24 pm

http://tinypic.com/r/15xqxb8/5
http://tinypic.com/r/2a9b634/5
http://tinypic.com/r/2hwpgt5/5
http://tinypic.com/r/vn2gsy/5
http://tinypic.com/r/jkeulx/5

i know the basic stuff. i know how to check the numbers and base marks. its the small ones that kinda mess me up. and i cant tell if the mark right above the year is a refurb mark, or just some other mark i dont know. it looks like a lightly stamped refurb. just dont know this weapon as well as i would like to. thank you again for the help!!!
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Re: Izhevsk Arsenal Markings and History

Postby cavrider » Tue Jan 31, 2012 9:30 pm

one last one. i know im posting alot.. lol. i do not have pics of the stock or the bolt. i have had this rifle for 15 years and have been useing it for a hunting rifle. i now have it at a gun smith. im paying them to remove the horrid camo paint job i put on the wood stock, cleaning up the bolt, and cleaning it up to as close to factory as they can. so, i dont have pics of the stock or bolt right now. i know it has the calstalbvt import stamp on the barrel. but, my smith said this has alot of marks he has never seen before. and hence why im looking around with persons with alot more back round on the weapon.
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Re: Izhevsk Arsenal Markings and History

Postby Marauder 1 » Wed Feb 01, 2012 9:32 pm

Hey Cavrider:
OK here is what I've found so far.

Your circled hammer is a Tula Mark, not sure where that is but that part is from the Tula arsenal

Circled Y is the final black powder test mark on the rifle

Circled K is point of aim test passed

Circled 6 is a Hungarian mark maybe from when the rifle was re-arsenaled

C.A.I. ST. ALB. VT. is Century Arms International St. Albans, VT

r after the date means year (Russian sounds like god)

That's as many as I can get so far, but I'll keep trying
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Re: Izhevsk Arsenal Markings and History

Postby cavrider » Thu Feb 02, 2012 9:34 am

Thank you. the big one im working on is the refurb mark. im not sure if it is a refurn stamp that was just very lightly stamped, or somthing else. my gun smith keeps telling me its worth around a grand. but i really dont think it is. not if its a refurb. even if its numbers matching. i will be trying to find a collector one i get a solide value on it.
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Re: Izhevsk Arsenal Markings and History

Postby Marauder 1 » Thu Feb 02, 2012 9:54 am

I'm looking at your receiver, it looks like it's not completely round. I've sort nicknamed these "ridgebacks" because it looks like they have a hump down the center of the receiver. I'm curious why he would think a M91/30 1944 Izhevsk is worth a 1000.00. Not to say it's not a nice rifle, I like all the markings..

Hey BTW my dad was Cav and severed in Burma..

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