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Re: Do you ever have this problem?

Postby iridium-192 » Tue Dec 31, 2013 6:54 pm

Ok now I see... to my shame, I never even thought about it as an issue... :lol:
Learn something new today. thank you gentlemen! :thumbup:
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Do you ever have this problem?

Postby Gamecock24 » Tue Dec 31, 2013 7:03 pm

It maybe something you do without realizing you are doing. Loading the bipod seems to be talked about more for shooting prone but with my rifle jumping from recoil I figured I'd try it and that's when I discovers the issue.

Maybe I'll make a mat the guy in the video or I could use a PVC pipe with bungee cord through it.
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Re: Do you ever have this problem?

Postby iridium-192 » Tue Dec 31, 2013 7:06 pm

How it shoots? I'm sure the result should be good!
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Re: Do you ever have this problem?

Postby Grimstod » Tue Dec 31, 2013 7:08 pm

Right now I use my drag bag as a matt. It has a lip around it so that functions like his mats. Glad I could help.

Iridium: I think we had a thread that debated on how to load a bipod. (whether it should be loaded back into the shooter or into the target.) It was while you were out.
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Re: Do you ever have this problem?

Postby iridium-192 » Tue Dec 31, 2013 7:12 pm

So tell me if I got it right...

Pretty much I have to create closed system - Shooter-Surface-Rifle-Target on the same parallel line, shot after a shot, right?
If a rifle slides around after every following shot & I have to readjust its position it basically wrong?

Looks like I have to rethink the way I shoot... :think:
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Re: Do you ever have this problem?

Postby Gamecock24 » Tue Dec 31, 2013 7:28 pm

These are alittle pricey but would work. http://www.diamondxcustom.com/Spiked_bi ... 44741.aspx
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Re: Do you ever have this problem?

Postby 0933 » Wed Jan 01, 2014 11:53 am

Dmitry, here is a good tutorial on 'bipod loading.'

Watch on youtube.com


Here is another one... this one is from Frank (LowLight) the admin over on Snipers Hide. Just the first couple minutes...

Watch on youtube.com


The idea is to keep your natural point of aim, and maintain consistency from shot to shot.

Gamecock24, it's difficult to load the bipod from a bench... just the way your upper body is erect doesn't lend itself to placing pressure on the buttstock. The lower the bench/higher the stool, and the more 'lean' you have will help... otherwise different feet, or material on the bench will help. A wood or concrete bench is pretty smooth, and hard for the feet to grip. You can bring a little roll of carpet to lay on the bench... it helps quite a bit.
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Re: Do you ever have this problem?

Postby Gamecock24 » Sun Jan 05, 2014 8:08 pm

I went the range Friday with some friends and used a blanket on the bench. That seemed to help alittle. We were mostly shooting the T53, 91/30, ARs & handguns but we were just having fun. I'm not sure who or which rifle shot this bullet but it was surplus ammo. Looks like it was tumbling when it hit the target.
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I just thought it was a strange occurrence at 100yards.
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Re: Do you ever have this problem?

Postby farmerboy78 » Sun Jan 05, 2014 9:20 pm

I had this problem before on a 22-250. My twist rate wasn't enough to pump out the needed rpm's to stabilize the round... could be that or the round didn't engage the rifling enough to stabilize it. The 91/30 may have a oversize bore.
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Re: Do you ever have this problem?

Postby Shepard » Tue Jan 07, 2014 4:00 pm

When it comes to preloading your bipod I believe it depends on the type of bipod your using. I have 2 types and they get used in 2 different ways. One you push into it - the other you pull back against its stops. I've watched several builds on film and I would suggest a muzzle brake with top ports. You can tap the ports and tune your brake to create just the right amount of down pressure. One other thing that has a lot to do with your rifle jumping about is the type of stock your using. Stocks with a straight line concept put the recoil straight back into your shoulder. Stocks with a drop style butt stock have more muzzle rise.
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