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Re: Mosin &7n1 @ 863 meters

Postby Grimstod » Wed Apr 16, 2014 4:40 pm

I have a can of it. Its reliable and never misfires but is not accurate. Best group i have ever shot was 3in with any of my mosins. I have tried 5 of them with it.
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Re: Mosin &7n1 @ 863 meters

Postby Shepard » Wed Apr 16, 2014 6:17 pm

Grimstod wrote:I have a can of it. Its reliable and never misfires but is not accurate. Best group i have ever shot was 3in with any of my mosins. I have tried 5 of them with it.



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Re: Mosin &7n1 @ 863 meters

Postby ShootnMathews » Wed Apr 16, 2014 6:20 pm

I have some Bulgarian 10. As Ben said, its reliable firing but not very accurate. Shoots anywhere from 3" to 9" groups from the one mosin I have. Honestly most days I can't reliably hit a milk jug at 100 yards. One day I shot a whole box at a 2 liter at 90 yards and never hit it.

One of these days ill try pulling a dozen or so bullets, re-weigh the powder in all of them and seat the bullets back. Then see how it groups. One individual told me he does that and gets 1" groups out of it. He said the powder varies greatly from one case to the next.
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Re: Mosin &7n1 @ 863 meters

Postby Grimstod » Wed Apr 16, 2014 7:10 pm

No Jerry I havnt even cracked thoses spam cans yet.

Jarred I have been thinking of trying the same thing. Just hope the bullet pull easy. I pulled an armor pearling round and that took a lot of effort. 4 tries too. Ruined the bullet.
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Re: Mosin &7n1 @ 863 meters

Postby ShootnMathews » Thu Apr 17, 2014 4:46 am

Grimstod wrote:Jarred I have been thinking of trying the same thing. Just hope the bullet pull easy. I pulled an armor pearling round and that took a lot of effort. 4 tries too. Ruined the bullet.

I just have a kinetic hammer puller which I really don't think would get the job done. Before I try this I'll buy a collet bullet puller for the press. I think that would be the way to go. What did you try to pull the bullet with? The fellow who told me about it swears by it. He used some sort of press puller. He said the powder varied by GRAINS in them. Not 1/10's of grains.
Almost like they just scooped up some powder in them and seated a bullet. But they didn't manufacture this stuff for precision bolt actions. They ran it through machine guns with a spray and pray, suppress by overwhelming fire method.
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Re: Mosin &7n1 @ 863 meters

Postby Shepard » Thu Apr 17, 2014 5:48 am

Here's the article about powder variation in surplus loaded ammunition.

http://automotivethinker.com/7-62x54r-s ... load-data/
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Re: Mosin &7n1 @ 863 meters

Postby Grimstod » Fri Apr 18, 2014 7:27 am

I was just about to say Jerry has a really good link about that.
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Re: Mosin &7n1 @ 863 meters

Postby Shepard » Fri Apr 18, 2014 9:35 am

One part of the article that I found interesting is the part that Yugo Heavy Ball and the Modern PPU 182 gr FMJ are pretty much the same all around and it's made at the same manufacturing plant.
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Re: Mosin &7n1 @ 863 meters

Postby Grimstod » Fri Apr 18, 2014 10:01 am

If that bullet came without a cantilever I would order them for reloading. The 182gr bullet is a very good one. Has a better BC then the Sierra 174.

I have PPUs catalog and they will sell just about any of their bullets or brass if you order in bulk.
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Re: Mosin &7n1 @ 863 meters

Postby Grimstod » Fri Apr 18, 2014 10:09 am

Here is their latest PDF catalog. Check it out Jerry. It may take time to load though. Took a while for mine to load.

http://www.prvipartizan.com/download/ppu2014.pdf
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