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My dream.....

Postby iridium-192 » Fri Oct 19, 2012 8:59 pm

Many years ago I've been introduced to lathe....
Having much fun modifying Mosins I came to a conclusion that I need something more serious than just a drill & drimel...

I can't afford it right now but it is achievable goal, I'm sure it is possible to buy something like this withing couple of years... :)

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Re: My dream.....

Postby USSR » Sat Oct 20, 2012 5:25 pm

That looks quite small.

I have been wanting to get myself a Bridgeport for years. Having a mill AND a lathe would be great tho!
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My dream.....

Postby iridium-192 » Sat Oct 20, 2012 5:44 pm

This one is small... But I like the versatility of this 3n1.
I'm looking for something that can accept 2" in diameter & 40" long chunk of steel minimum. Around $4000... +/- you know...
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Re: My dream.....

Postby Shepard » Sat Oct 20, 2012 7:48 pm

Great little machine, I like the fact it comes with a large tool assortment. The machines I have came with no tooling. As with any shop machines you will always be in need of the next best tool.
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Re: My dream.....

Postby iridium-192 » Sat Oct 20, 2012 9:55 pm

http://www.smithy.com/granite/specifications

GRANITE COMBO Lathe⋅Mill⋅Drill is preferable over Midas.


1340 Series - is what needed.
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Re: My dream.....

Postby Marauder 1 » Sat Oct 20, 2012 11:21 pm

Nice unit.. Years ago when I worked for an Atrospace company I went out in the bone yard and found a beautiful mill sitting outside waiting to go to the scrap yard. I talked to my boss and had it brought in to my shop. It took me weeks to get it all cleaned and polished and back to it former glory. Everyone thought I was crazy but that actually became one of the most used machines in our shop. Man I wish I had that back now.

I've been looking for a unimat something small but useful.

Thanks for showing me that, but Santa can get that in the sack this year. :(

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Re: My dream.....

Postby TheJoe » Tue Oct 23, 2012 5:57 pm

Unless you have a very limited amount of space I would not recommend that. My uncle has an older model of that, and they are much much better than harbor freight and grizzly combos, but for the price or a little more you could get a real mill and a lathe.
The lathe might suit you, but you'll probably be disappointed with the mill potion.


Old Bridgeport knee mills typically go for 2k and often still hold better numbers than new Chinese stuff. They use larger tool holders etc. than the hobby mills, of which you can buy American made high quality stuff used on ebay and auctions for the same or cheaper than Chinese stuff. Although, a Bridgeport probably weighs 2-3 times what that machine weighs and you might not have the space for a mill with a 4' table and a separate lathe.

Dedicated Chinese made lathes start getting good around 3-4k new, again you can probably find something very nice and American made for about the same price or possibly much less that will hold as good or better numbers despite being 30 or more years old. They usually aren't pretty, but they will work all day long

The best part is they will always be worth what you paid for them if you don't let them rust.

I would watch Craigslist. I'd also lurk around some hobby machine forums if you're new to the subject.

If you're hell bent on new, here are my recommendations:

Lathe: http://www.machinetoolonline.com/PM1236.html

Mill: http://www.machinetoolonline.com/PM-MV-BenchMills.html

Under 5k delivered for BOTH, small footprint machines that will do virtually anything. You can get either machine from several different companies, usually the color is the only difference. I'd pick by customer service reputation. A freind of mine has a grizzly version of the mill above and loves it. It can be converted to CNC also. Here's a site dedicated to it and it's variations: http://www.g0704.com/

Whatever you do don't buy something cheap like this:
http://www.grizzly.com/products/Combo-Lathe-Mill/G9729
It sucks. We discarded the mill portion after 6 months. We use the lathe with twice the motor that came with it for roughing and odd projects that require +/- 1/8" tolerances.

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Postby iridium-192 » Tue Oct 23, 2012 7:38 pm

Wow thank you very much for all this information!
I actually have enough space in my garage so I'll use it wise :)
I have good experience of working on various shop machines (mostly lathe, the biggest was about 20' long... ;) which I used to make custom parts for trucks & combine-harvesters), so I'm interested in real stuff... I'm talking about an investment...
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Re: My dream.....

Postby TheJoe » Tue Oct 23, 2012 8:10 pm

That's a big lathe. We have a 6,000 lb cnc lathe, but it's setup for production; bar feed, air collet chuck, tool turret etc. I'd like to get a manual chuck for it, but the cost would exceed the amount of work I would do with it. We have a cnc knee mill too.
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Postby TheJoe » Tue Oct 23, 2012 10:29 pm

Sorry to highjack your post, but I was just watching mosin videos on youtube and noticed what looks like the exact two machines I linked to in the backround: http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&v=uNHvdGr5ocQ I think he's in a shipping container.
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