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Re: Custom Lee Collet Die in 7.62x54r

Postby Shepard » Sat Jul 13, 2013 5:15 pm

gandog56 wrote:Collet neck size only die would be worthless to me with 12 different Mosin Nagants to feed. I ain't about to take the time to keep the cases from each gun separated so I could use it, since I usually take 2-3 different ones to each range session. And rotate which ones taken.



This is for precision target shooters with precision rifles who want to reload precision ammunition. I do not see any benefit whatsoever using a collet die to load ammunition to be shot in an old Mosin. That would be like putting a turbine engine in a model T.
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Re: Custom Lee Collet Die in 7.62x54r

Postby gandog56 » Sun Jul 14, 2013 12:59 pm

I totally agree. But I reload for a hobby and shoot for fun. Maybe if I was doing competitive shoots I would take the extra time needed. As a matter of fact, I do have a 7.62X54R neck size only die I picked up for $3 at a yard sale, so I could do it. Maybe I will for my M39 and 91/59, since they are my two most accurate Mosin Nagants.

How accurate? Here is a target from one of them. It was the very first 5 bullets I fired out of the rifle. It was also using milsurp Czech light ball silvertip ammo. I was shooting it at 50 yards just to see how it grouped. Imagine what it might do with neck sized only reloads made for accuracy.

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Re: Custom Lee Collet Die in 7.62x54r

Postby Shepard » Tue Aug 27, 2013 9:50 am

WELL -- I finally got it done in the rough and it works perfect. I tried different dies and finally I'm using a .308 die with a little ring adapter pressed on the collet. This little adapter presses on the end of a 308 collet die and changes the length of the collet for the 762x54r brass case. I purchased the Mandrel for the 303 collet die so I'd be able to load for my SV 98 that has a .311 bore.

You save money and time using a collet die over the conventional die.
You don't need to lube the cases - no lube to buy.
You don't have to clean the lube off after sizing.

The conventional die squeezes the case smaller then needed by forcing it in to a small hole -- then sizes it on the expander pin -- friction wear inside and out.
The collet die just squeezes the neck of the case onto a mandrel of the proper size. No friction wear and the cases last longer.
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Re: Custom Lee Collet Die in 7.62x54r

Postby Shepard » Thu Aug 29, 2013 6:29 am

I've loaded 60 rounds with this new collet die idea. It works perfectly. The best part is no lube to spray and no lube to clean up after sizing. Between this and the new priming adapter, it takes less time to load up a 100 rounds. I'm glad I finally got this done.
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Re: Custom Lee Collet Die in 7.62x54r

Postby Marauder 1 » Thu Aug 29, 2013 4:11 pm

Hmmmm so did you buy the Lee .308 die? I might have to try this and see how it works.. How much for the collet?

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Re: Custom Lee Collet Die in 7.62x54r

Postby Shepard » Thu Aug 29, 2013 6:43 pm

Mark 20.00 for the collet die - comes with .308 mandrel. Extra 303 mandrel for .311 bullets 4.00 --- plus the adapter I make.



http://www.titanreloading.com/rifle-rel ... t-die-only

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Re: Custom Lee Collet Die in 7.62x54r

Postby gandog56 » Tue Sep 03, 2013 6:30 am

Shepard wrote:
This is for precision target shooters with precision rifles who want to reload precision ammunition. I do not see any benefit whatsoever using a collet die to load ammunition to be shot in an old Mosin. That would be like putting a turbine engine in a model T.



Aww dude, a moderator on a Mosin Nagant oriented board says that? ;)

I have one Mosin that did THIS with milsurp ammo. Imagine what it could do with nice custom made reloads!
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Re: Custom Lee Collet Die in 7.62x54r

Postby Shepard » Tue Sep 10, 2013 5:20 am

Just wanted to report that the ammunition used in my 1000 yd target shoot were loaded with this new collet die. I think it helped a lot.
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Re: Custom Lee Collet Die in 7.62x54r

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Re: Custom Lee Collet Die in 7.62x54r

Postby Shepard » Thu Oct 03, 2013 5:13 pm




There are several companies that make a neck sizing only die. I went with the Lee Collet die because it makes the brass last longer.
Think of it like this. A standard type die the brass is forced into a small hole to shrink it --- then its pulled over an expander and puffs it out to the proper size. The brass is flexed in 2 directions to get the desired fit. You have to use lube -- thats messy and needs cleaned up after you've resized the brass.
Now the collet die requires no lube and compresses the case neck onto a mandrel of the proper size. No mess to clean up and now I polish my brass every other load. I resize the cases - clean the primer pocket and load.
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