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Postby Shepard » Sat Feb 15, 2014 6:53 pm

A long time ago I said I was going to build an Annealer for my brass. When I started the project I didn't realize how long it would take to get all my parts together. The cartridge plate was the hardest to find. No it's not polished like some of the fancy and expensive models -- it just works. I need to get one more torch tip and make a Y hose for the propane torches to run off of a 20 lb BBQ tank. Here are a few pictures of my new toy. The model train transformer works great for a power supply and it slows way slower then I thought it would.
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Re: Annealing Machine.

Postby iridium-192 » Sat Feb 15, 2014 9:02 pm

Oh my goodness! You're the man! :clap: Awesome, just awesome! :thumbup:
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Re: Annealing Machine.

Postby ShootnMathews » Sun Feb 16, 2014 5:30 am

:clap: great work Jerry. Very nice.

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Re: Annealing Machine.

Postby Marauder 1 » Wed Mar 05, 2014 12:08 am

Uber cool Jerry, how are you testing the neck temps? I wonder if one of those Laser thermometers could work?

Beautiful Job!!!

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Re: Annealing Machine.

Postby Alan LA » Wed Mar 05, 2014 5:00 am

Marauder 1 wrote:Uber cool Jerry, how are you testing the neck temps? I wonder if one of those Laser thermometers could work?

Beautiful Job!!!

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Along with this, I'd like to know the optimum temp and cool down time also.

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Re: Annealing Machine.

Postby 0933 » Wed Mar 05, 2014 6:57 am

I use a 650 degree tempil-stick right below the shoulder of the case. I keep one or two extra cases around, and adjust the machine to just melt the tempilstick line. They come out looking like this.

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You want the neck and shoulder area to hit 700-750 degrees Fahrenheit. Anything over 800 will ruin the brass.

Here is a good article on annealling.

http://www.kenlightmfg.com/cartridgecaseannealer.htm
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Re: Annealing Machine.

Postby Shepard » Wed Mar 05, 2014 7:01 am

I am still learning about the true science of annealing. You need to get the brass to about 750-800F for 6-9 seconds. Its a mix of timing the plate speed and the heat of the torches. If not done right you can waste your valuable brass. It should never glow -- if it does throw it in the garbage. This article has been posted in the past -- but its so good a read I'd posted it again. http://www.6mmbr.com/annealing.html

I'm getting temp indicating markers so I can get the heat right.

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Re: Annealing Machine.

Postby Fung_13 » Fri Feb 13, 2015 7:58 pm

0933 wrote:I use a 650 degree tempil-stick right below the shoulder of the case. I keep one or two extra cases around, and adjust the machine to just melt the tempilstick line. They come out looking like this.

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You want the neck and shoulder area to hit 700-750 degrees Fahrenheit. Anything over 800 will ruin the brass.

Here is a good article on annealling.

http://www.kenlightmfg.com/cartridgecaseannealer.htm

Great article!!! Never knew what annealing really was... now to do some research
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