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Is your gun a C&R firearm?

Postby Marauder 1 » Sun Oct 17, 2010 12:23 pm

I found this on the ATF website, this brings up a very interesting point..

The definition for curio or relic (“C & R”) firearms found in 27 CFR § 478.11 does not specifically state that a firearm must be in its original condition to be classified as a C&R firearm. However, ATF Ruling 85-10, which discusses the importation of military C&R firearms, notes that they must be in original configuration and adds that a receiver is not a C&R item. Combining this ruling and the definition of C&R firearms, the Firearms Technology Branch (FTB) has concluded that a firearm must be in its original condition to be considered a C&R weapon.

It is also the opinion of FTB, however, that a minor change such as the addition of scope mounts, non-original sights, or sling swivels would not remove a firearm from its original condition. Moreover, we have determined that replacing particular firearms parts with new parts that are made to the original design would also be acceptable-for example, replacing a cracked M1 Grand stock with a new wooden stock of the same design, but replacing the original firearm stock with a plastic stock would change its classification as a C&R item.

So it appears that you cannot change stocks unless it's the original type.

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Re: Is your gun a C&R firearm?

Postby cheapblaster » Sat Oct 30, 2010 10:05 pm

Well, you CAN change the stock or make any other legal modification, it is just that at some point you have crossed the line and no longer have a C&R gun. Exactly where that point is I'm not sure. But a Mosin with a new synthetic stock is still a legal weapon. It's C&R status would only matter to me if I were then to want to sell the thing with the new stock on it - I don't believe I could then sell it as a C&R item.
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